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My friend Richard Feynman - Leonard Susskind
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My friend Richard Feynman - Leonard Susskind

 


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I decided when I was asked to do this I decided when I was asked to do this that<00:00:18.320> what<00:00:18.439> I<00:00:18.560> really<00:00:18.720> wanted<00:00:19.000> to<00:00:19.160> talk<00:00:19.400> about that what I really wanted to talk about that what I really wanted to talk about was<00:00:19.840> my<00:00:19.960> friend<00:00:20.199> Richard<00:00:20.480> feineman<00:00:21.000> I<00:00:22.000> was<00:00:22.160> one was my friend Richard feineman I was one was my friend Richard feineman I was one of<00:00:22.400> the<00:00:22.519> fortunate<00:00:23.039> few<00:00:23.599> that<00:00:23.760> really<00:00:24.160> did<00:00:24.359> get of the fortunate few that really did get of the fortunate few that really did get to<00:00:24.599> know<00:00:24.880> him<00:00:25.320> and<00:00:25.519> enjoyed<00:00:25.920> his<00:00:26.400> presence<00:00:27.400> and to know him and enjoyed his presence and to know him and enjoyed his presence and I'm<00:00:27.800> going<00:00:28.000> 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made me feel smart he somehow he did he made me feel smart he made<00:01:57.280> me<00:01:57.439> feel<00:01:57.680> he<00:01:57.840> was<00:01:58.039> smart<00:01:58.799> he<00:01:58.960> made<00:01:59.119> me made me feel he was smart he made me made me feel he was smart he made me feel<00:01:59.439> we<00:01:59.560> were<00:01:59.960> both<00:02:00.159> smart<00:02:00.960> and<00:02:01.119> the<00:02:01.280> two<00:02:01.439> of feel we were both smart and the two of feel we were both smart and the two of us<00:02:02.079> could<00:02:02.320> solve<00:02:02.799> any<00:02:03.200> problem us could solve any problem us could solve any problem whatever<00:02:05.439> and<00:02:05.600> in<00:02:05.799> fact<00:02:06.200> we<00:02:06.399> did<00:02:07.039> sometimes<00:02:07.280> do whatever and in fact we did sometimes do whatever and in fact we did sometimes do physics<00:02:08.039> together<00:02:08.239> we<00:02:08.360> never<00:02:08.560> published<00:02:08.920> a physics together we 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relativity says the internal fast relativity says the internal motions<00:13:11.160> go<00:13:11.480> very<00:13:12.160> slow<00:13:13.160> the<00:13:13.279> electron<00:13:13.800> hits motions go very slow the electron hits motions go very slow the electron hits it<00:13:14.160> suddenly<00:13:14.680> it's<00:13:14.839> like<00:13:15.000> taking<00:13:15.320> a<00:13:15.720> very it suddenly it's like taking a very it suddenly it's like taking a very sudden<00:13:16.639> snapshot<00:13:17.639> of<00:13:17.760> the sudden snapshot of the sudden snapshot of the proton<00:13:19.560> what<00:13:19.639> do<00:13:19.800> you<00:13:20.000> see<00:13:20.560> you<00:13:20.760> see<00:13:21.079> a<00:13:21.600> Frozen proton what do you see you see a Frozen proton what do you see you see a Frozen bunch<00:13:23.279> of<00:13:23.680> partons<00:13:24.680> they<00:13:24.800> don't<00:13:25.040> move<00:13:25.320> and bunch of partons they don't move and bunch of partons they don't move and 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think<00:14:13.519> he would have liked this event I think he would have liked this event I think he would<00:14:13.880> have<00:14:14.079> said<00:14:14.560> uh<00:14:14.680> you<00:14:14.759> know<00:14:14.959> this<00:14:15.160> is<00:14:15.560> uh<00:14:16.440> I would have said uh you know this is uh I would have said uh you know this is uh I I<00:14:16.800> I<00:14:16.880> don't<00:14:17.079> need<00:14:17.440> this I I don't need this I I don't need this but<00:14:20.320> how<00:14:20.480> should<00:14:20.680> we<00:14:20.800> honor<00:14:21.160> Fineman<00:14:21.600> how but how should we honor Fineman how but how should we honor Fineman how should<00:14:21.880> we<00:14:22.040> really<00:14:22.240> honor<00:14:22.600> Fineman<00:14:23.519> I<00:14:23.600> think should we really honor Fineman I think should we really honor Fineman I think the<00:14:23.920> answer<00:14:24.199> is<00:14:24.399> we<00:14:24.480> should<00:14:24.759> honor the answer is we should honor the answer is we should honor Fineman<00:14:26.720> by<00:14:27.040> getting<00:14:27.800> as<00:14:28.079> much<00:14:28.519> baloney<00:14:29.240> out Fineman by getting as much baloney out Fineman by getting as much baloney out of<00:14:29.519> our<00:14:29.720> own<00:14:30.079> sandwiches<00:14:30.759> as<00:14:30.920> we<00:14:31.399> can<00:14:32.399> thank of our own sandwiches as we can thank of our own sandwiches as we can thank [Applause]



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