Strange answers to the psychopath test - Jon Ronson
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if daily starts I was at a friend's
if daily starts I was at a friend's
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house and she had on her shelf a copy of
house and she had on her shelf a copy of
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the DSM manual which is the manual of
the DSM manual which is the manual of
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mental disorders at lists every known
mental disorders at lists every known
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mental disorder and he used to be back
mental disorder and he used to be back
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in the fifties a very slim pamphlet
in the fifties a very slim pamphlet
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America bigger and bigger and bigger and
America bigger and bigger and bigger and
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now it's 886 pages long and it lists
now it's 886 pages long and it lists
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currently 374 mental disorders so I was
currently 374 mental disorders so I was
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leafing through it wondering if I had
leafing through it wondering if I had
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any mental disorders and it turns out
any mental disorders and it turns out
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I've got 12
I've got 12
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I've got generalized anxiety disorder
I've got generalized anxiety disorder
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which is a given
which is a given
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I've got Knightmare disorder which is
I've got Knightmare disorder which is
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categorized if you have recurrent dreams
categorized if you have recurrent dreams
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of being pursued or declared to failure
of being pursued or declared to failure
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and all my dreams involve people chasing
and all my dreams involve people chasing
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me down the street going you're a
me down the street going you're a
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I've got parent-child relation or
I've got parent-child relation or
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problems which I blame my parents for
problems which I blame my parents for
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I'm kidding I'm not kidding I'm kidding
I'm kidding I'm not kidding I'm kidding
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and I've got malingering and I think
and I've got malingering and I think
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it's actually quite rare to have both
it's actually quite rare to have both
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malingering and generalized anxiety
malingering and generalized anxiety
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disorder because malingering tends to
disorder because malingering tends to
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make me feel very anxious anyway I was
make me feel very anxious anyway I was
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looking through this book wondering if I
looking through this book wondering if I
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was much crazier than I thought I was or
was much crazier than I thought I was or
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maybe it's not a good idea to diagnose
maybe it's not a good idea to diagnose
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yourself with a mental disorder if
yourself with a mental disorder if
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you're lots of chains professional or
you're lots of chains professional or
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maybe the psychiatry profession has a
maybe the psychiatry profession has a
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kind of strange desire to label what's
kind of strange desire to label what's
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essentially normal human behavior as a
essentially normal human behavior as a
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mental disorder I didn't know which of
mental disorder I didn't know which of
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these things was true but I thought it
these things was true but I thought it
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was kind of interesting and I thought
was kind of interesting and I thought
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maybe I should meet a critic of
maybe I should meet a critic of
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Psychiatry to get their view which is
Psychiatry to get their view which is
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how I ended up having lunch with the
how I ended up having lunch with the
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Scientologists it was a man called Brian
Scientologists it was a man called Brian
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who runs a crack team of Scientologists
who runs a crack team of Scientologists
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who were determined to destroy
who were determined to destroy
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psychiatry wherever it lies there called
psychiatry wherever it lies there called
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the CCHR and I said to him can I can you
the CCHR and I said to him can I can you
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prove to me and psychiatry is a
prove to me and psychiatry is a
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pseudoscience that can't be trusted and
pseudoscience that can't be trusted and
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he said yes we can prove it to you
he said yes we can prove it to you
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and I said how and he said we can
and I said how and he said we can
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introduce you to Tony and I said who's
introduce you to Tony and I said who's
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Tony and he said Tony's in Broadmoor
Tony and he said Tony's in Broadmoor
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Broadmoor is Broadmoor Hospital he used
Broadmoor is Broadmoor Hospital he used
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to be known as the Broadmoor asylum for
to be known as the Broadmoor asylum for
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the criminally insane that's where they
the criminally insane that's where they
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said that serial killers and the people
said that serial killers and the people
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who can't help themselves and I said too
who can't help themselves and I said too
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bad well what did Tony do but he said
bad well what did Tony do but he said
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hardly anything he beat someone up or
hardly anything he beat someone up or
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something and he decided to fake madness
something and he decided to fake madness
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to get out of a prison sentence but he
to get out of a prison sentence but he
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faked it to well and now he's stuck in
faked it to well and now he's stuck in
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Broadmoor and nobody will believe he's
Broadmoor and nobody will believe he's
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sane
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do you want us to try and get you into
do you want us to try and get you into
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Broadmoor to meet Tony so I said yes
Broadmoor to meet Tony so I said yes
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please so I got the train to Broadmoor I
please so I got the train to Broadmoor I
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began to yawn uncontrollably around
began to yawn uncontrollably around
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Kempton Park which apparently is what
Kempton Park which apparently is what
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dogs also do when anxious they yawn
dogs also do when anxious they yawn
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uncontrollably and we got to learn more
uncontrollably and we got to learn more
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I've been taken through gate after gate
I've been taken through gate after gate
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after gate after gate into the Wellness
after gate after gate into the Wellness
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Center which is where you get to meet
Center which is where you get to meet
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the patients it looks like a giant
the patients it looks like a giant
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Hampton Inn it's all Beach and pine and
Hampton Inn it's all Beach and pine and
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calming colors and the only bold colors
calming colors and the only bold colors
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are the Reds of the panic buttons
are the Reds of the panic buttons
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had the patient started rift again
had the patient started rift again
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and they were quite overweight wearing
and they were quite overweight wearing
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sweatpants and quite dopes are looking
sweatpants and quite dopes are looking
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and Brian the Scientologists whispered
and Brian the Scientologists whispered
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to me that medicated which to the
to me that medicated which to the
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Scientologists was not the worst evil in
Scientologists was not the worst evil in
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the world but I'm thinking it's from be
the world but I'm thinking it's from be
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a good idea and then Brian said here's
a good idea and then Brian said here's
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Tony and a man was walking in and he
Tony and a man was walking in and he
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wasn't overweight he was a very good
wasn't overweight he was a very good
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physical shape and he wasn't wearing
physical shape and he wasn't wearing
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sweatpants he was wearing a pinstripe
sweatpants he was wearing a pinstripe
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suit and he had his arm outstretched
suit and he had his arm outstretched
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like someone out of The Apprentice he
like someone out of The Apprentice he
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looked like a man who wanted to wear an
looked like a man who wanted to wear an
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outfit that would convince me that he
outfit that would convince me that he
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was very sane and he sat down and I said
was very sane and he sat down and I said
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so is it true that you faked your way in
so is it true that you faked your way in
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here and he said yep yep absolutely I
here and he said yep yep absolutely I
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beat someone up when I was 17 and I was
beat someone up when I was 17 and I was
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in prison awaiting trial and my cellmate
in prison awaiting trial and my cellmate
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said to me you know you have to do faked
said to me you know you have to do faked
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madness tell em you're mad you'll get
madness tell em you're mad you'll get
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sent to some cushy hospital nurses have
sent to some cushy hospital nurses have
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been your pizzas you love you on
been your pizzas you love you on
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PlayStation I said well how did you do
PlayStation I said well how did you do
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it said well ask to see the prison
it said well ask to see the prison
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psychiatrist and I just seen a film
psychiatrist and I just seen a film
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called crash in which people get sexual
called crash in which people get sexual
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pleasure from crashing cars into walls
pleasure from crashing cars into walls
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so I said to the psychiatrist I get
so I said to the psychiatrist I get
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sexual pleasure from crushing cars into
sexual pleasure from crushing cars into
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walls and I said what else he said oh
walls and I said what else he said oh
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yeah I told the psychiatrist that I
yeah I told the psychiatrist that I
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wanted to watch women as they died
wanted to watch women as they died
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because it would make me feel more
because it would make me feel more
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normal and I said where'd you get out
normal and I said where'd you get out
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from he's all from a biography of Ted
from he's all from a biography of Ted
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Bundy that they had to the prison
Bundy that they had to the prison
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library anyway faked madness - well he
library anyway faked madness - well he
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said and they didn't send him some cushy
said and they didn't send him some cushy
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hospital they sent him to Broadmoor and
hospital they sent him to Broadmoor and
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the minute he got there said it's what
the minute he got there said it's what
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one look at the place asked to see the
one look at the place asked to see the
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psychiatrist said there's been a
psychiatrist said there's been a
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terrible misunderstanding I'm not
terrible misunderstanding I'm not
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mentally ill I said how long have you
mentally ill I said how long have you
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been here for he said well if I just
been here for he said well if I just
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done my time in prison for the original
done my time in prison for the original
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crime I'd have got five years
crime I'd have got five years
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I've been in Broadmoor for 12 years Tony
I've been in Broadmoor for 12 years Tony
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said that it's a lot harder to convince
said that it's a lot harder to convince
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people you're sane than it is to
people you're sane than it is to
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convince if you're crazy
convince if you're crazy
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yes I thought the best way to stay
yes I thought the best way to stay
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normal would be to talk to people
normal would be to talk to people
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normally about normal things like
normally about normal things like
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football or what's on TV I subscribed to
football or what's on TV I subscribed to
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New Scientist and recently they had an
New Scientist and recently they had an
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article about the u.s. army was trailing
article about the u.s. army was trailing
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bumblebees to the fat explosives so I
bumblebees to the fat explosives so I
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said to a nurse did you know that the US
said to a nurse did you know that the US
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Army's training bumblebees to sniff out
Army's training bumblebees to sniff out
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explosives whenever at my medical notes
explosives whenever at my medical notes
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I saw they'd written believes bees can
I saw they'd written believes bees can
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he said you know they're always looking
he said you know they're always looking
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out for non-verbal clues to my mental
out for non-verbal clues to my mental
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state but how do you sit in a sane way
state but how do you sit in a sane way
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how do you cross your legs in the same
how do you cross your legs in the same
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way it's just impossible
way it's just impossible
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no one totally said that to me I thought
no one totally said that to me I thought
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to myself am I sitting like a journalist
to myself am I sitting like a journalist
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crossing my legs like a journalist he
crossing my legs like a journalist he
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said you know I've got the Stockwell
said you know I've got the Stockwell
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strangler on one side of me and I've got
strangler on one side of me and I've got
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the tiptoe through the tulips rapist on
the tiptoe through the tulips rapist on
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the other side of me so I tend to stay
the other side of me so I tend to stay
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in my room a lot because I find quite
in my room a lot because I find quite
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frightening and they take Dad is a sign
frightening and they take Dad is a sign
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of madness they say it proves that I'm
of madness they say it proves that I'm
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aloof and grandiose so only in Broadmoor
aloof and grandiose so only in Broadmoor
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would not wanting to hang out with
would not wanting to hang out with
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serial killers be a side of madness
serial killers be a side of madness
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anyway he seemed completely normal to me
anyway he seemed completely normal to me
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but what did I know but I've got home I
but what did I know but I've got home I
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emailed his punished and honestly made
emailed his punished and honestly made
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and I said what's the story and he said
and I said what's the story and he said
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yep we accept that toady faked madness
yep we accept that toady faked madness
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to get out of a prison sentence because
to get out of a prison sentence because
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his hallucinations that had seemed quite
his hallucinations that had seemed quite
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cliched to begin with just vanished the
cliched to begin with just vanished the
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minute he got to Broadmoor however we
minute he got to Broadmoor however we
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have assessed him and we've determined
have assessed him and we've determined
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that what he is is a psychopath and in
that what he is is a psychopath and in
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fact faking madness is exactly the kind
fact faking madness is exactly the kind
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of cunning and manipulative act of a
of cunning and manipulative act of a
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psychopath so on the checklist having
psychopath so on the checklist having
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manipulative so faking your brain going
manipulative so faking your brain going
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wrong is evidence that your brain has
wrong is evidence that your brain has
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gone wrong and I spoke to other experts
gone wrong and I spoke to other experts
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and they said the pinstripe suits
and they said the pinstripe suits
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classic psychopath speak of items 1 & 2
classic psychopath speak of items 1 & 2
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on the checklist glibness superficial
on the checklist glibness superficial
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charm and grandiose sense of self-worth
charm and grandiose sense of self-worth
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I said what I said the Wadden hang out
I said what I said the Wadden hang out
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with the the other patients classic
with the the other patients classic
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psychopath it speaks to grandiosity and
psychopath it speaks to grandiosity and
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also lack of empathy so all the things
also lack of empathy so all the things
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that has seemed most normal about Tony
that has seemed most normal about Tony
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was evidence according to his clinician
was evidence according to his clinician
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that he was mad in this new way he was a
that he was mad in this new way he was a
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psychopath and his clinician said to me
psychopath and his clinician said to me
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if you want to know more about
if you want to know more about
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Psychopaths he can go on a Psychopaths
Psychopaths he can go on a Psychopaths
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spotting course run by Robert hare who
spotting course run by Robert hare who
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invented the psychopathy checklist so I
invented the psychopathy checklist so I
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did I went on a Psychopaths possum
did I went on a Psychopaths possum
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course and I am now as
course and I am now as
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if I'd and I have to say extremely adept
if I'd and I have to say extremely adept
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it's like a bad spotter so here's the
it's like a bad spotter so here's the
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statistics one in a hundred regular
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people is a psychopath so there's 1500
people is a psychopath so there's 1500
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people in this room 15 of you are
people in this room 15 of you are
psychopaths
psychopaths
psychopaths
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although that figure rises to four
although that figure rises to four
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over I think there's a very good chance
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is about 30 or 40 psychopaths in this
is about 30 or 40 psychopaths in this
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room it could be carnage by the end of
room it could be carnage by the end of
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the night hair said the reason why is
the night hair said the reason why is
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because capitalism at its most ruthless
because capitalism at its most ruthless
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rewards psychopathic behavior the lack
rewards psychopathic behavior the lack
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of empathy the glibness
of empathy the glibness
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cunning manipulative in fact capitalism
cunning manipulative in fact capitalism
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perhaps at its most remorseless is a
perhaps at its most remorseless is a
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physical manifestation of psychopathy
physical manifestation of psychopathy
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it's like a form of psychopathy that's
it's like a form of psychopathy that's
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come down to
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affect us all the hair said to me you
affect us all the hair said to me you
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know what forget about some guy at
know what forget about some guy at
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Broadmoor who may or may not have faked
Broadmoor who may or may not have faked
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madness who cares that's not a big story
madness who cares that's not a big story
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the big story he's had his corporate
the big story he's had his corporate
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psychopathy you want to go and interview
psychopathy you want to go and interview
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yourself some corporate Psychopaths so I
yourself some corporate Psychopaths so I
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gave it a try wrote to the Enron people
gave it a try wrote to the Enron people
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I said could I covered it for you in
I said could I covered it for you in
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prison to find out if your Psychopaths
prison to find out if your Psychopaths
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they didn't reply so I changed tack I
they didn't reply so I changed tack I
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emailed chainsaw al Dunlap the asset
emailed chainsaw al Dunlap the asset
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stripper from the 1990s he would come
stripper from the 1990s he would come
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into failing businesses and close down
into failing businesses and close down
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30% of the workforce just turn American
30% of the workforce just turn American
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towns into ghost towns and I emailed him
towns into ghost towns and I emailed him
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and I said I believe he may have a very
and I said I believe he may have a very
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special brain anomaly that makes you
special brain anomaly that makes you
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special interested in the predatory
special interested in the predatory
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spirit and fearless can I come and
spirit and fearless can I come and
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interview you about your special brain
interview you about your special brain
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anomaly and he said come on over so I
anomaly and he said come on over so I
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went to our deluxe Grand Florida mansion
went to our deluxe Grand Florida mansion
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that was filled with sculptures of
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predatory animals there were lions and
predatory animals there were lions and
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tigers he was taking me through the
tigers he was taking me through the
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garden there were foul cones and ethos
garden there were foul cones and ethos
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in the sent me over they've got sharks
in the sent me over they've got sharks
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and what you've sent us in at less
and what you've sent us in at less
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effeminate way you've got more sharks
effeminate way you've got more sharks
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and then we went into his kitchen now
and then we went into his kitchen now
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our double up would be bought in to save
our double up would be bought in to save
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failing companies he closed down 30
failing companies he closed down 30
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often fire people with a joke that for
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instance one famous story about him
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suddenly came up to him and said I've
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just bought myself a new car and he said
just bought myself a new car and he said
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well you may have a new car but I tell
well you may have a new car but I tell
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you what you don't have a job so in his
you what you don't have a job so in his
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kitchen he was standing there with his
kitchen he was standing there with his
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wife Judy and his bodyguard sword and I
wife Judy and his bodyguard sword and I
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said you know how I said in my email
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that you might have a special brain
that you might have a special brain
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anomaly that makes you special and he
anomaly that makes you special and he
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said yes an amazing theory it's like
said yes an amazing theory it's like
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Star Trek you're going where no man has
Star Trek you're going where no man has
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gone before and I said well some
gone before and I said well some
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psychologists might say that this makes
psychologists might say that this makes
you
you
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daddy said what and I said it's like the
daddy said what and I said it's like the
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pastor and I said I've got a list of
pastor and I said I've got a list of
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psychopathic traits in my pocket can I
psychopathic traits in my pocket can I
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go through them with you
go through them with you
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and he looked intrigued and despite
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himself but he said okay go on and I
himself but he said okay go on and I
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which I have to say would have been hard
which I have to say would have been hard
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for him to deny because he was standing
for him to deny because he was standing
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underneath a giant or your painting of
underneath a giant or your painting of
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he said well you've got to believe in
he said well you've got to believe in
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you and I said manipulative he said
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that's leadership
that's leadership
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and I said shallow effect an inability
and I said shallow effect an inability
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to experience a range of emotions he
to experience a range of emotions he
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said who wants to be weighed down by
said who wants to be weighed down by
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some nonsense emotions so he was going
some nonsense emotions so he was going
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down the psychopath checklist basically
down the psychopath checklist basically
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turning it into who moved my cheese
turning it into who moved my cheese
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but I did notice something happening to
but I did notice something happening to
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me that I was without them laughs
me that I was without them laughs
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whenever he said anything to me that was
whenever he said anything to me that was
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cut and normal like he said no to
cut and normal like he said no to
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juvenile delinquency he said he got
juvenile delinquency he said he got
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accepted into West Point and they don't
accepted into West Point and they don't
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let delinquents in West Point is have no
let delinquents in West Point is have no
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too many short marital relationships
too many short marital relationships
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he's only ever been married twice
he's only ever been married twice
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admittedly his first wife cited in her
admittedly his first wife cited in her
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divorce papers but he once threatened
divorce papers but he once threatened
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her with a knife and said he always
her with a knife and said he always
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wanted what human flesh tasted like but
wanted what human flesh tasted like but
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people say stupid things to each other
people say stupid things to each other
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in bad marriages in the heat of an
in bad marriages in the heat of an
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argument of his second marriage has
argument of his second marriage has
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lasted 41 years so whenever he said
lasted 41 years so whenever he said
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anything to me that just seemed kind of
anything to me that just seemed kind of
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non psychopathic I thought to myself
non psychopathic I thought to myself
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well I'm not going to put dad in the
well I'm not going to put dad in the
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book and then I realized that becoming a
book and then I realized that becoming a
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psychopath spotter had kind of turned me
psychopath spotter had kind of turned me
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a little bit psychopathic so I was
a little bit psychopathic so I was
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desperate to shove him in a box marked
desperate to shove him in a box marked
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psychopath I was desperate to define him
psychopath I was desperate to define him
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by his maddest edges and I realized oh
by his maddest edges and I realized oh
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my god this is what I've been doing for
my god this is what I've been doing for
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20 years it's what all journalists do we
20 years it's what all journalists do we
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travel across the world with our
travel across the world with our
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notepads in our hands and we wait for
notepads in our hands and we wait for
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the gems and the gems are always the
the gems and the gems are always the
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outermost aspects of our interviewees
outermost aspects of our interviewees
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personality we stitch them together like
personality we stitch them together like
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medieval monks and we leave the normal
medieval monks and we leave the normal
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stuff on the floor I know this is a
stuff on the floor I know this is a
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country that overdiagnosis certain
country that overdiagnosis certain
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mental disorders hugely childhood
mental disorders hugely childhood
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bipolar children as young as four are
bipolar children as young as four are
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being labeled bipolar because they have
being labeled bipolar because they have
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temper tantrums which scores them high
temper tantrums which scores them high
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on their bipolar checklist when I got
on their bipolar checklist when I got
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back to London
back to London
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Tony phoned me
Tony phoned me
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he said why don't you been returning my
he said why don't you been returning my
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calls I said well they say that you're a
calls I said well they say that you're a
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psychopath and he said not a psychopath
psychopath and he said not a psychopath
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said you know what one of the items on
said you know what one of the items on
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the checklist is lack of remorse but
the checklist is lack of remorse but
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another item on the checklist is cunning
another item on the checklist is cunning
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manipulative so when you say you feel
manipulative so when you say you feel
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remorse for your crime they say typical
remorse for your crime they say typical
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of the psychopath to cunningly say he
of the psychopath to cunningly say he
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feels remorse but he doesn't
feels remorse but he doesn't
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it's like witchcraft they turn
it's like witchcraft they turn
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everything upside down he said I've got
everything upside down he said I've got
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a tribunal coming up when you come to it
a tribunal coming up when you come to it
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so I said okay so I wouldn't which
so I said okay so I wouldn't which
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tribunal and after 14 years in Broadmoor
tribunal and after 14 years in Broadmoor
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Denison go they decided that he
Denison go they decided that he
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shouldn't be held indefinitely because
shouldn't be held indefinitely because
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he scores high on a checklist that might
he scores high on a checklist that might
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mean that he would as a greater than
mean that he would as a greater than
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average chance of recidivism so they let
average chance of recidivism so they let
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him go and outside in the corridor he
him go and outside in the corridor he
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said to me you know what John everyone's
said to me you know what John everyone's
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a bit psychopathic he said you are I am
a bit psychopathic he said you are I am
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well obviously I am I said what are you
well obviously I am I said what are you
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gonna do now he said I'm gonna go to
gonna do now he said I'm gonna go to
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Belgium because there's a woman there
Belgium because there's a woman there
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that I fancy that she's married so I
that I fancy that she's married so I
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would have to get a splitter from her
would have to get a splitter from her
husband
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anyway that was two years ago and that's
anyway that was two years ago and that's
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where my book ended and for the last 20
where my book ended and for the last 20
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months everything was fine
months everything was fine
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nothing bad happens he was living with a
nothing bad happens he was living with a
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girl outside London he was according to
girl outside London he was according to
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Brian the Scientologist making up for
Brian the Scientologist making up for
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lost time which I know sounds ominous
lost time which I know sounds ominous
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but isn't necessarily ominous
but isn't necessarily ominous
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unfortunately after 20 months he did go
unfortunately after 20 months he did go
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back to jail for a month he got into
back to jail for a month he got into
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Africa in a bar he called it and took
Africa in a bar he called it and took
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him to jail for a month which I know is
him to jail for a month which I know is
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bad but at least a month implies that
bad but at least a month implies that
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it's whatever the frak are well was
it's whatever the frak are well was
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wasn't too bad
wasn't too bad
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and then he phoned me and you know I
and then he phoned me and you know I
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think it's right
think it's right
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that Thole is out because you shouldn't
that Thole is out because you shouldn't
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define people by their maddest edges and
define people by their maddest edges and
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what Tony is is a he's a semi psychopath
what Tony is is a he's a semi psychopath
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he's a gray area in a world that doesn't
he's a gray area in a world that doesn't
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like grey areas but the grey areas are
like grey areas but the grey areas are
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where you find the complexity of
where you find the complexity of
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so you found the humanity and that's
so you found the humanity and that's
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where you found the truth
where you found the truth
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and totally said to me John
and totally said to me John
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could I buy you a drink at a bar to sort
could I buy you a drink at a bar to sort
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of thank you for everything you've done
of thank you for everything you've done
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for me
for me
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and I didn't go what would you have done
and I didn't go what would you have done
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thank you
thank you
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