Chúng ta cần nói về một sự bất công – Bryan Stevenson

We need to talk about an injustice - Bryan Stevenson
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We need to talk about an injustice - Bryan Stevenson

 


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well this is a really extraordinary well this is a really extraordinary honor<00:00:18.640> for<00:00:18.840> me<00:00:19.240> I<00:00:19.400> spend<00:00:19.720> most<00:00:19.920> of<00:00:20.119> my<00:00:20.359> time<00:00:20.720> in honor for me I spend most of my time in honor for me I spend most of my time in jails<00:00:21.439> in<00:00:21.680> prisons<00:00:22.320> on<00:00:22.519> death<00:00:22.840> row<00:00:23.800> I<00:00:24.000> spend jails in prisons on death row I spend jails in prisons on death row I spend most<00:00:24.400> of<00:00:24.560> my<00:00:24.760> time<00:00:24.920> in<00:00:25.119> very<00:00:25.279> low-income most of my time in very low-income most of my time in very low-income communities<00:00:26.320> and<00:00:26.480> the<00:00:26.720> projects<00:00:27.199> and<00:00:27.439> places communities and the projects and places communities and the projects and places where<00:00:27.960> there's<00:00:28.119> a<00:00:28.279> great<00:00:28.480> 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Ted<00:00:39.320> has<00:00:39.480> an short time here is that Ted has an short time here is that Ted has an identity<00:00:41.160> and<00:00:41.239> you<00:00:41.360> can<00:00:41.719> actually<00:00:42.120> say<00:00:42.559> things identity and you can actually say things identity and you can actually say things here<00:00:44.239> that<00:00:44.399> have<00:00:44.600> impacts<00:00:45.039> around<00:00:45.280> the<00:00:45.399> world here that have impacts around the world here that have impacts around the world and<00:00:46.120> sometimes<00:00:46.360> when<00:00:46.480> it<00:00:46.719> comes<00:00:47.039> through<00:00:47.360> Ted and sometimes when it comes through Ted and sometimes when it comes through Ted it<00:00:47.840> has<00:00:48.039> meaning<00:00:48.440> and<00:00:48.840> power<00:00:49.840> that<00:00:49.960> it<00:00:50.160> doesn't it has meaning and power that it doesn't it has meaning and power that it doesn't have<00:00:51.399> when<00:00:51.520> it<00:00:51.719> 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my grandmother was tough but she was my grandmother was tough but she was also<00:01:55.799> loving<00:01:56.240> when<00:01:56.360> I<00:01:56.439> would<00:01:56.560> see<00:01:56.719> her<00:01:56.840> as<00:01:56.960> a also loving when I would see her as a also loving when I would see her as a little<00:01:57.200> boy<00:01:57.399> she'd<00:01:57.640> come<00:01:57.759> up<00:01:57.840> to<00:01:57.960> me<00:01:58.039> and<00:01:58.119> she'd little boy she'd come up to me and she'd little boy she'd come up to me and she'd give<00:01:58.439> me<00:01:58.600> these<00:01:58.840> hugs<00:01:59.159> and<00:01:59.280> she'd<00:01:59.479> squeeze<00:02:00.119> me give me these hugs and she'd squeeze me give me these hugs and she'd squeeze me so<00:02:00.520> tight<00:02:00.759> I<00:02:00.840> could<00:02:01.039> barely<00:02:01.399> breathe<00:02:02.360> and<00:02:02.479> then so tight I could barely breathe and then so tight I could barely breathe and then she'd<00:02:02.840> 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will forget it she yesterday and never will forget it she she<00:02:59.920> took<00:03:00.080> me<00:03:00.200> out<00:03:00.400> back<00:03:00.599> and<00:03:00.680> she<00:03:00.800> said<00:03:01.000> Brian she took me out back and she said Brian she took me out back and she said Brian I'm<00:03:01.319> going<00:03:01.440> to<00:03:01.560> tell<00:03:01.720> you<00:03:01.920> something<00:03:02.239> but<00:03:02.360> you I'm going to tell you something but you I'm going to tell you something but you don't<00:03:02.680> tell<00:03:02.920> anybody<00:03:03.360> what<00:03:03.519> I<00:03:03.680> tell<00:03:03.959> you<00:03:04.879> I don't tell anybody what I tell you I don't tell anybody what I tell you I said<00:03:05.280> okay<00:03:05.440> Mom<00:03:05.760> she<00:03:05.840> said<00:03:06.040> now<00:03:06.200> you<00:03:06.440> you<00:03:06.560> make said okay Mom she said now you you make said okay Mom she said now you you make sure<00:03:06.920> you<00:03:07.040> 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well I adored my mom so I said yes Mama well I adored my mom so I said yes Mama I'll<00:03:41.319> do<00:03:41.599> that<00:03:42.599> then<00:03:42.760> she<00:03:42.879> said<00:03:43.159> the<00:03:43.280> second I'll do that then she said the second I'll do that then she said the second thing<00:03:43.640> I<00:03:43.760> want<00:03:43.879> you<00:03:44.000> to<00:03:44.159> promise<00:03:44.439> me<00:03:44.560> is<00:03:44.680> that thing I want you to promise me is that thing I want you to promise me is that you'll<00:03:45.000> always<00:03:45.239> do<00:03:45.439> the<00:03:45.760> right<00:03:46.319> thing<00:03:47.319> even you'll always do the right thing even you'll always do the right thing even when<00:03:47.760> the<00:03:47.959> right<00:03:48.239> thing<00:03:48.519> is<00:03:48.680> the<00:03:48.879> hard<00:03:49.319> thing when the right thing is the hard thing when the right thing is the hard thing and<00:03:50.439> I<00:03:50.599> thought<00:03:50.840> 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motion and I had a client who was 14 years<00:17:56.159> old<00:17:56.360> a<00:17:56.520> young<00:17:56.760> poor<00:17:57.080> black<00:17:57.360> kid<00:17:57.640> and years old a young poor black kid and years old a young poor black kid and started<00:17:58.480> working<00:17:58.679> on<00:17:58.760> the<00:17:58.919> this<00:17:59.039> motion<00:17:59.360> with started working on the this motion with started working on the this motion with and<00:17:59.640> the<00:17:59.760> head<00:17:59.880> of<00:18:00.000> the<00:18:00.120> motion<00:18:00.440> was<00:18:00.600> a<00:18:00.840> motion and the head of the motion was a motion and the head of the motion was a motion to<00:18:01.280> try<00:18:01.679> my<00:18:01.919> poor<00:18:02.200> 14-year-old<00:18:03.039> black<00:18:03.280> male to try my poor 14-year-old black male to try my poor 14-year-old black male client<00:18:04.039> like<00:18:04.159> a<00:18:04.400> privileged<00:18:04.960> white client like a privileged white 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court couple months uh went by and I court couple months uh went by and I just<00:18:37.280> had<00:18:37.440> forgotten<00:18:37.799> all<00:18:38.000> about<00:18:38.280> it<00:18:39.240> and<00:18:39.600> I just had forgotten all about it and I just had forgotten all about it and I finally<00:18:40.480> uh<00:18:40.600> decided<00:18:40.960> oh<00:18:41.120> gosh<00:18:41.280> I<00:18:41.360> got<00:18:41.440> to<00:18:41.520> go finally uh decided oh gosh I got to go finally uh decided oh gosh I got to go to<00:18:41.760> the<00:18:41.840> court<00:18:42.080> and<00:18:42.200> do<00:18:42.360> this<00:18:42.559> crazy<00:18:42.960> case<00:18:43.159> and to the court and do this crazy case and to the court and do this crazy case and I<00:18:43.400> got<00:18:43.559> in<00:18:43.679> my<00:18:43.840> car<00:18:43.960> and<00:18:44.080> I<00:18:44.159> was<00:18:44.240> feeling<00:18:44.520> really I got in my car and I was feeling really I got in my car and I was feeling really 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homicide billion uh and yet 46% of all homicide billion uh and yet 46% of all homicide cases<00:22:04.960> don't<00:22:05.159> result<00:22:05.440> in<00:22:05.679> arrests<00:22:06.679> uh<00:22:06.880> 56%<00:22:07.559> of cases don't result in arrests uh 56% of cases don't result in arrests uh 56% of all<00:22:07.840> rape<00:22:08.080> cases<00:22:08.360> don't<00:22:08.559> result<00:22:08.919> so<00:22:09.039> there's all rape cases don't result so there's all rape cases don't result so there's an<00:22:09.320> opportunity<00:22:09.799> to<00:22:09.960> change<00:22:10.360> that<00:22:10.600> and<00:22:10.679> this an opportunity to change that and this an opportunity to change that and this referendum<00:22:11.240> would<00:22:11.440> propose<00:22:11.760> having<00:22:12.039> those referendum would propose having those referendum would propose having those dollars<00:22:12.760> go<00:22:13.000> to<00:22:13.760> uh<00:22:13.880> law<00:22:14.120> enforcement<00:22:14.760> 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