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Shape-shifting dinosaurs - Jack Horner
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Shape-shifting dinosaurs - Jack Horner

 


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none ah all right well I'm going to talk none ah all right well I'm going to talk about<00:00:37.680> dinosaurs<00:00:38.399> do<00:00:38.579> you<00:00:38.640> remember about dinosaurs do you remember about dinosaurs do you remember dinosaurs<00:00:39.750> when<00:00:40.170> you're<00:00:40.350> that<00:00:40.829> age<00:00:48.410> dinosaurs dinosaurs when you're that age dinosaurs dinosaurs when you're that age dinosaurs are<00:00:49.559> kind<00:00:49.739> of<00:00:49.800> funny<00:00:49.980> I<00:00:50.070> mean<00:00:50.370> you<00:00:50.489> know<00:00:53.030> we're are kind of funny I mean you know we're are kind of funny I mean you know we're gonna<00:00:54.149> kind<00:00:54.449> of<00:00:54.539> go<00:00:54.690> in<00:00:54.809> a<00:00:54.870> different gonna kind of go in a different gonna kind of go in a different direction<00:00:55.230> right<00:00:55.649> now<00:00:55.859> I<00:00:56.010> hope<00:00:56.370> you<00:00:56.489> all direction right now I hope you all direction right now I hope you all realize<00:00:56.850> that<00:00:57.329> right<00:00:57.899> so<00:00:58.320> I'll<00:00:59.039> just<00:00:59.309> give<00:00:59.519> you realize that right so I'll just give you realize that right so I'll just give you my<00:00:59.789> message<00:00:59.850> up<00:01:00.359> front<00:01:00.890> try<00:01:01.890> not<00:01:02.070> to<00:01:02.190> go my message up front try not to go my message up front try not to go extinct<00:01:03.739> that's<00:01:04.739> at



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people ask me a lot when in fact one of people ask me a lot when in fact one of the<00:01:14.229> most<00:01:14.439> asked<00:01:14.860> questions<00:01:15.549> I<00:01:15.700> get<00:01:15.759> is<00:01:15.970> why<00:01:16.720> do the most asked questions I get is why do the most asked questions I get is why do children<00:01:17.259> like<00:01:18.070> dinosaurs<00:01:18.640> so<00:01:18.880> much<00:01:19.060> I<00:01:19.360> mean children like dinosaurs so much I mean children like dinosaurs so much I mean what<00:01:19.750> what's<00:01:20.470> the<00:01:20.590> fascination<00:01:20.880> and<00:01:21.880> I what what's the fascination and I what what's the fascination and I usually<00:01:23.770> just<00:01:24.009> say<00:01:24.130> well<00:01:24.369> you<00:01:24.520> know<00:01:24.640> dinosaurs usually just say well you know dinosaurs usually just say well you know dinosaurs were<00:01:25.539> big<00:01:26.610> different<00:01:27.610> and<00:01:28.240> gone<00:01:29.729> 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and so every time they found something and so every time they found something that<00:03:54.860> looked<00:03:55.100> a<00:03:55.220> little<00:03:55.340> different<00:03:55.730> they that looked a little different they that looked a little different they named<00:03:56.180> it<00:03:56.360> something<00:03:56.930> different<00:03:58.120> and<00:03:59.120> what named it something different and what named it something different and what happened<00:03:59.780> of<00:04:00.050> course<00:04:00.260> is<00:04:00.590> we<00:04:00.800> ended<00:04:01.040> up<00:04:01.190> with<00:04:01.400> a happened of course is we ended up with a happened of course is we ended up with a whole<00:04:01.640> bunch<00:04:01.820> of<00:04:02.000> different<00:04:02.900> dinosaurs<00:04:05.170> in whole bunch of different dinosaurs in whole bunch of different dinosaurs in 1975<00:04:07.190> a<00:04:08.980> light<00:04:09.980> went<00:04:10.610> on<00:04:10.700> and<00:04:10.940> somebody's<00:04:11.330> had 1975 a light went on and somebody's had 1975 a light went on and somebody's had dr.<00:04:12.830> Peter<00:04:13.040> Dodson<00:04:13.580> at<00:04:14.000> the<00:04:14.120> University<00:04:14.660> of dr. Peter Dodson at the University of dr. 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of cool I as an example and it's kind of cool I mean<00:04:33.830> if<00:04:33.920> you<00:04:33.980> look<00:04:34.190> at<00:04:34.340> the<00:04:34.460> cassowary<00:04:34.930> or<00:04:35.930> any mean if you look at the cassowary or any mean if you look at the cassowary or any of<00:04:36.620> the<00:04:36.800> birds<00:04:37.070> that<00:04:37.310> have<00:04:37.550> crests<00:04:38.030> on<00:04:38.150> their of the birds that have crests on their of the birds that have crests on their heads<00:04:38.570> they<00:04:39.230> actually<00:04:39.770> grow<00:04:40.340> to<00:04:40.400> about<00:04:40.850> 80% heads they actually grow to about 80% heads they actually grow to about 80% adult<00:04:42.830> size<00:04:43.100> before<00:04:43.580> the<00:04:44.120> crest<00:04:44.450> starts<00:04:44.870> to adult size before the crest starts to adult size before the crest starts to grow grow grow now<00:04:46.940> think<00:04:47.180> about<00:04:47.240> them<00:04:47.600> 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can see that if you actually found<00:05:04.870> one<00:05:05.870> that<00:05:06.020> was<00:05:06.200> 80%<00:05:06.710> grown<00:05:07.400> and<00:05:08.110> you found one that was 80% grown and you found one that was 80% grown and you didn't<00:05:09.440> know<00:05:09.650> that<00:05:09.680> it<00:05:10.010> was<00:05:10.070> going<00:05:10.280> to<00:05:10.490> grow<00:05:10.700> up didn't know that it was going to grow up didn't know that it was going to grow up to<00:05:10.940> a<00:05:11.210> cassowary<00:05:11.690> you<00:05:12.410> would<00:05:12.530> think<00:05:12.740> there to a cassowary you would think there to a cassowary you would think there were<00:05:12.950> two<00:05:13.160> different<00:05:13.340> animals<00:05:14.650> all<00:05:15.650> right<00:05:15.800> so were two different animals all right so were two different animals all right so so<00:05:17.570> this<00:05:17.750> was<00:05:17.930> a<00:05:17.960> problem<00:05:18.440> and<00:05:18.590> 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crest at all so this was interesting so crest at all so this was interesting so this<00:05:49.700> is this is this is this<00:05:51.250> is<00:05:51.370> where<00:05:52.380> people<00:05:53.380> went<00:05:53.650> astray<00:05:53.830> again this is where people went astray again this is where people went astray again I<00:05:54.850> mean<00:05:55.690> if<00:05:56.110> they'd<00:05:56.320> had<00:05:56.440> just<00:05:56.650> taken<00:05:57.340> that I mean if they'd had just taken that I mean if they'd had just taken that take<00:05:58.270> computer<00:05:58.690> Dotson's<00:05:59.080> work<00:05:59.289> and<00:05:59.500> gone<00:06:00.460> on take computer Dotson's work and gone on take computer Dotson's work and gone on with<00:06:00.880> that<00:06:01.060> then<00:06:01.270> we<00:06:01.300> would<00:06:01.570> have<00:06:01.780> a<00:06:01.810> lot<00:06:02.110> less with that then we would have a lot less with that then we would have a lot less dinosaurs<00:06:03.070> 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course means that stigma lock and course means that stigma lock and Dracorex Dracorex Dracorex are<00:11:51.770> extinct



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and it has holes in the frill and I said and it has holes in the frill and I said well<00:14:28.949> do<00:14:29.100> we<00:14:29.190> have<00:14:29.339> any<00:14:29.519> juvenile<00:14:30.180> Toro well do we have any juvenile Toro well do we have any juvenile Toro sources<00:14:31.199> and<00:14:31.410> they<00:14:31.470> said<00:14:31.740> well<00:14:32.399> no<00:14:32.839> but<00:14:33.839> it<00:14:34.529> has sources and they said well no but it has sources and they said well no but it has holes<00:14:34.889> in<00:14:35.129> his<00:14:35.279> throat<00:14:35.959> so<00:14:36.959> one<00:14:37.110> of<00:14:37.139> my holes in his throat so one of my holes in his throat so one of my graduate<00:14:37.829> students<00:14:38.279> John's<00:14:38.879> Cannella<00:14:39.649> look graduate students John's Cannella look graduate students John's Cannella look through<00:14:40.920> our<00:14:40.949> whole<00:14:41.279> collection<00:14:41.970> and<00:14:42.180> he through our whole collection and he through our whole collection and he actually<00:14:42.629> discovered<00:14:43.410> that<00:14:43.920> the<00:14:44.790> hole actually discovered that the hole actually discovered that the hole starting<00:14:45.779> to<00:14:45.930> form<00:14:46.290> in<00:14:46.759> Triceratops<00:14:47.759> and<00:14:48.230> of starting to form in Triceratops and of starting to form in Triceratops and of course<00:14:49.439> it's<00:14:49.649> open<00:14:50.040> in<00:14:50.610> Torosaurus<00:14:51.240> so<00:14:51.569> he course it's open in Torosaurus so he course it's open in Torosaurus so he found<00:14:52.019> the<00:14:52.199> transitional<00:14:53.040> ones<00:14:53.279> between found the transitional ones between found the transitional ones between Triceratops<00:14:55.110> and<00:14:55.259> Torosaurus<00:14:55.740> which<00:14:56.639> was Triceratops and Torosaurus which was Triceratops and Torosaurus which was pretty<00:14:57.000> cool<00:14:57.089> so<00:14:57.870> now<00:14:57.899> we<00:14:58.829> know<00:14:59.040> that<00:14:59.339> that pretty cool so now we know that that pretty cool so now we know that that Torosaurus<00:15:00.660> is<00:15:01.560> actually<00:15:02.189> a<00:15:02.220> grown-up Torosaurus is actually a grown-up Torosaurus is actually a grown-up Triceratops<00:15:04.430> now<00:15:05.430> when<00:15:05.970> we<00:15:06.120> name<00:15:06.300> dinosaurs Triceratops now when we name dinosaurs Triceratops now when we name dinosaurs you<00:15:07.259> know<00:15:07.379> when<00:15:07.709> we<00:15:07.829> name<00:15:07.980> anything<00:15:08.250> the you know when we name anything the you know when we name anything the original<00:15:09.629> name<00:15:09.839> gets<00:15:10.139> to<00:15:10.350> stick<00:15:10.649> and<00:15:10.920> the original name gets to stick and the original name gets to stick and the second<00:15:11.730> name<00:15:11.939> is<00:15:12.180> thrown<00:15:13.079> out<00:15:13.279> so<00:15:14.839> Torosaurus second name is thrown out so Torosaurus second name is thrown out so Torosaurus is<00:15:16.620> extinct<00:15:18.529> Triceratops<00:15:19.529> if<00:15:19.769> you<00:15:19.889> heard<00:15:20.129> the is extinct Triceratops if you heard the is extinct Triceratops if you heard the news<00:15:20.459> a<00:15:20.490> lot<00:15:20.819> of<00:15:20.879> the<00:15:21.060> newscasters<00:15:21.870> got<00:15:22.079> it<00:15:22.199> all news a lot of the newscasters got it all news a lot of the newscasters got it all wrong<00:15:22.529> they<00:15:22.800> thought<00:15:23.209> Torosaurus<00:15:24.209> should<00:15:24.509> be wrong they thought Torosaurus should be wrong they thought Torosaurus should be kept<00:15:24.870> and<00:15:25.019> Triceratops<00:15:25.649> thrown<00:15:25.980> out<00:15:26.160> but kept and Triceratops thrown out but kept and Triceratops thrown out but that's<00:15:26.730> not<00:15:26.879> going<00:15:27.000> to<00:15:27.089> happen



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all right so so you know we can do this all right so so you know we can do this with<00:15:35.959> a<00:15:35.990> bunch<00:15:36.170> of<00:15:36.350> dinosaurs<00:15:36.649> you<00:15:37.040> know<00:15:37.070> I with a bunch of dinosaurs you know I with a bunch of dinosaurs you know I mean<00:15:37.370> here's<00:15:37.930> Edmontosaurus<00:15:38.930> and<00:15:39.199> the<00:15:39.350> natto mean here's Edmontosaurus and the natto mean here's Edmontosaurus and the natto Titan<00:15:40.070> a<00:15:40.300> natural<00:15:41.300> titan<00:15:41.720> giant<00:15:42.529> duck<00:15:43.389> so Titan a natural titan giant duck so Titan a natural titan giant duck so giant<00:15:45.170> duck-billed<00:15:45.410> dinosaur<00:15:46.040> so<00:15:46.370> here's giant duck-billed dinosaur so here's giant duck-billed dinosaur so here's another<00:15:47.420> one<00:15:47.600> so<00:15:48.139> we<00:15:49.070> look<00:15:49.250> at<00:15:49.339> the<00:15:49.490> bone another one so we look at the bone another one so we look at the bone histology<00:15:49.880> the<00:15:50.510> bone<00:15:50.660> histology<00:15:51.220> tells<00:15:52.220> us histology the bone histology tells us histology the bone histology tells us that<00:15:52.899> edmontosaurus<00:15:53.899> is<00:15:54.139> a<00:15:54.470> juvenile<00:15:55.310> or<00:15:55.579> at that edmontosaurus is a juvenile or at that edmontosaurus is a juvenile or at least<00:15:55.940> a<00:15:56.089> sub<00:15:56.240> adult<00:15:56.360> and<00:15:56.870> the<00:15:57.800> other<00:15:57.920> one<00:15:58.130> is least a sub adult and the other one is least a sub adult and the other one is is<00:15:59.149> an<00:15:59.480> adult<00:15:59.810> and<00:16:00.079> we<00:16:00.199> have<00:16:00.380> an<00:16:00.500> ontogeny<00:16:01.190> and is an adult and we have an ontogeny and is an adult and we have an ontogeny and we<00:16:03.769> get<00:16:03.920> rid<00:16:04.130> of<00:16:04.160> an<00:16:04.670> adult<00:16:05.060> Titan<00:16:05.920> so<00:16:06.920> we<00:16:07.160> can we get rid of an adult Titan so we can we get rid of an adult Titan so we can just<00:16:07.459> keep<00:16:07.610> doing<00:16:07.910> this<00:16:08.060> and<00:16:08.540> the<00:16:09.380> last<00:16:09.589> one<00:16:09.860> is just keep doing this and the last one is just keep doing this and the last one is t-rex<00:16:11.889> so<00:16:12.889> there's<00:16:13.100> these<00:16:13.220> two<00:16:13.279> dinosaurs t-rex so there's these two dinosaurs t-rex so there's these two dinosaurs t-rex<00:16:14.510> and<00:16:15.639> Nanotyrannus



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but they had a good question I mean they but they had a good question I mean they were<00:16:29.049> looking<00:16:29.350> at<00:16:29.470> and<00:16:29.559> they<00:16:29.619> said<00:16:29.829> one's<00:16:30.040> got were looking at and they said one's got were looking at and they said one's got 17<00:16:30.879> teeth<00:16:31.179> and<00:16:31.480> the<00:16:31.689> biggest<00:16:32.259> ones<00:16:32.439> got<00:16:32.649> 12 17 teeth and the biggest ones got 12 17 teeth and the biggest ones got 12 teeth<00:16:33.339> and<00:16:33.489> that<00:16:33.549> doesn't<00:16:33.879> make<00:16:33.939> any<00:16:34.119> sense<00:16:34.419> at teeth and that doesn't make any sense at teeth and that doesn't make any sense at all<00:16:34.660> because<00:16:34.899> we<00:16:35.559> don't<00:16:35.739> know<00:16:35.829> of<00:16:35.949> any all because we don't know of any all because we don't know of any dinosaurs<00:16:36.639> that<00:16:36.850> gain<00:16:37.629> teeth<00:16:38.019> 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just and of course Nano has 17 and we just went<00:17:18.760> out<00:17:18.939> and<00:17:19.089> looked<00:17:19.149> in<00:17:19.329> other<00:17:19.480> people's went out and looked in other people's went out and looked in other people's collections<00:17:20.230> and<00:17:20.620> we<00:17:20.740> found<00:17:20.980> one<00:17:21.220> that<00:17:21.539> has collections and we found one that has collections and we found one that has sort<00:17:23.380> of<00:17:23.470> 15<00:17:24.100> teeth<00:17:24.370> so<00:17:25.059> again<00:17:25.860> real<00:17:26.860> easy<00:17:27.130> to sort of 15 teeth so again real easy to sort of 15 teeth so again real easy to say<00:17:27.549> that<00:17:28.500> Tyrannosaurus<00:17:29.610> ontogeny<00:17:30.610> included say that Tyrannosaurus ontogeny included say that Tyrannosaurus ontogeny included nano<00:17:31.419> tyrannous<00:17:31.809> and<00:17:32.760> therefore<00:17:33.760> we<00:17:34.029> could nano tyrannous and therefore we could nano 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