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A light switch for neurons - Ed Boyden
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A light switch for neurons - Ed Boyden

 


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in this room if we live fraction of us in this room if we live long<00:03:07.920> enough<00:03:08.120> will<00:03:08.360> encounter<00:03:08.879> perhaps<00:03:09.239> a long enough will encounter perhaps a long enough will encounter perhaps a brain<00:03:10.040> disorder<00:03:11.040> um<00:03:11.159> already<00:03:11.440> a<00:03:11.560> billion brain disorder um already a billion brain disorder um already a billion people<00:03:12.720> have<00:03:12.959> had<00:03:13.680> uh<00:03:13.799> some<00:03:13.959> kind<00:03:14.120> of<00:03:14.200> brain people have had uh some kind of brain people have had uh some kind of brain disorder<00:03:14.720> that<00:03:14.840> incapacitates<00:03:15.560> them<00:03:16.400> and<00:03:16.519> the disorder that incapacitates them and the disorder that incapacitates them and the numbers<00:03:16.920> don't<00:03:17.120> do<00:03:17.239> it<00:03:17.440> justice<00:03:17.840> though<00:03:18.760> these numbers don't do it justice though these numbers 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