A global culture to fight extremism - Maajid Nawaz
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have you ever wondered why extremism
have you ever wondered why extremism
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seems to have been on the rise in
seems to have been on the rise in
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muslim-majority countries over the
muslim-majority countries over the
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course of the last decade have you ever
course of the last decade have you ever
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wondered how such a situation can be
wondered how such a situation can be
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turned around have you ever looked at
turned around have you ever looked at
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the Arab uprisings and thought how could
the Arab uprisings and thought how could
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we have predicted that or how could we
we have predicted that or how could we
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have better prepared for that well my
have better prepared for that well my
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personal story my personal journey what
personal story my personal journey what
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brings me to the Ted stage here today is
brings me to the Ted stage here today is
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a demonstration of exactly what's been
a demonstration of exactly what's been
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happening in muslim-majority societies
happening in muslim-majority societies
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over the course of the last two decades
over the course of the last two decades
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at least and beyond I want to share some
at least and beyond I want to share some
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of that story with you but also some of
of that story with you but also some of
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my ideas around change and the role of
my ideas around change and the role of
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social movements in creating change in
social movements in creating change in
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muslim-majority societies so let me
muslim-majority societies so let me
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begin by first of all giving a very very
begin by first of all giving a very very
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brief history of time if I may indulge
brief history of time if I may indulge
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in medieval societies they were defined
in medieval societies they were defined
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allegiances and identity was defined
allegiances and identity was defined
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primarily by religion and then we moved
primarily by religion and then we moved
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on into an era in the nineteenth century
on into an era in the nineteenth century
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with the rise of a European nation state
with the rise of a European nation state
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when identities and allegiances were
when identities and allegiances were
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defined by ethnicity so identity was
defined by ethnicity so identity was
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primarily defined by ethnicity and the
primarily defined by ethnicity and the
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nation-state reflected that in the age
nation-state reflected that in the age
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of globalization we moved on I call it
of globalization we moved on I call it
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the era of citizenship where people
the era of citizenship where people
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could be from multiracial multi-ethnic
could be from multiracial multi-ethnic
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backgrounds but all be equal as citizens
backgrounds but all be equal as citizens
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in a state you could be American Italian
in a state you could be American Italian
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you can be American Irish you could be
you can be American Irish you could be
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British Pakistani but I believe now that
British Pakistani but I believe now that
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we're moving into a new age and that age
we're moving into a new age and that age
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the New York Times dubbed recently as
the New York Times dubbed recently as
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the age of behavior how I define the age
the age of behavior how I define the age
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of behavior is a period of transnational
of behavior is a period of transnational
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allegiances where identities define more
allegiances where identities define more
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so by ideas and narratives and these
so by ideas and narratives and these
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ideas and narratives that bond people
ideas and narratives that bond people
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across borders are increasingly
across borders are increasingly
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beginning to affect the way in which
beginning to affect the way in which
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people behave now this is not all
people behave now this is not all
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necessary good news because it's also my
necessary good news because it's also my
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belief that hatred has gone global just
belief that hatred has gone global just
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as much as love but actually it's my
as much as love but actually it's my
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belief that the people who've been truly
belief that the people who've been truly
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capitalizing on this age of behavior
capitalizing on this age of behavior
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up until now up until recent times up
up until now up until recent times up
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until the last six months the people who
until the last six months the people who
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have been capitalizing most on the age
have been capitalizing most on the age
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of behavior and the transnational
of behavior and the transnational
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allegiances using digital activism and
allegiances using digital activism and
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other sorts of of borderless
other sorts of of borderless
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technologies those who have been
technologies those who have been
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benefiting from this have been
benefiting from this have been
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extremists and that's something which
extremists and that's something which
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I'd like to elaborate on if we look at
I'd like to elaborate on if we look at
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Islamists if we look at the phenomenon
Islamists if we look at the phenomenon
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of far-right fascists one thing they've
of far-right fascists one thing they've
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been very good at one thing that they've
been very good at one thing that they've
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been actually exceeding in is
been actually exceeding in is
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communicating across borders using
communicating across borders using
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technologies to organize themselves to
technologies to organize themselves to
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propagate their message and to create
propagate their message and to create
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truly global phenomena now I should know
truly global phenomena now I should know
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because for 13 years of my life I was
because for 13 years of my life I was
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involved in an extreme Islamist
involved in an extreme Islamist
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organization and I was actually a potent
organization and I was actually a potent
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force in spreading ideas across borders
force in spreading ideas across borders
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and I witnessed the rise of Islamist
and I witnessed the rise of Islamist
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extremism as distinct from Islam the
extremism as distinct from Islam the
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faith and the way in which it influenced
faith and the way in which it influenced
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my co-religionists across the world and
my co-religionists across the world and
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my story my personal story is truly
my story my personal story is truly
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evidence for the age of behavior that
evidence for the age of behavior that
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I'm attempting to elaborate upon here I
I'm attempting to elaborate upon here I
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was by the way I'm an Essex lad born and
was by the way I'm an Essex lad born and
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raised in Essex in the UK anyone who's
raised in Essex in the UK anyone who's
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from England knows the reputation that
from England knows the reputation that
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we have from Essex but having been born
we have from Essex but having been born
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in Essex at the age of 16 I joined an
in Essex at the age of 16 I joined an
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organisation at the age of 17 I was
organisation at the age of 17 I was
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recruiting people from Cambridge
recruiting people from Cambridge
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University to this organization at the
University to this organization at the
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age of 19 I was on the National
age of 19 I was on the National
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leadership of this organisation in the
leadership of this organisation in the
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UK at the age of 21 I was co-founding
UK at the age of 21 I was co-founding
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this organisation in Pakistan at the age
this organisation in Pakistan at the age
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of 22 I was co-founding this
of 22 I was co-founding this
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organisation in Denmark by the age of 24
organisation in Denmark by the age of 24
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I found myself convicted in prison in
I found myself convicted in prison in
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Egypt being blacklisted from three
Egypt being blacklisted from three
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countries in the world for attempting to
countries in the world for attempting to
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overthrow their governments being
overthrow their governments being
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subjected to torture in Egyptian jails
subjected to torture in Egyptian jails
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and sentenced to five years as a
and sentenced to five years as a
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prisoner of conscience now that journey
prisoner of conscience now that journey
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and what took me from Essex all the way
and what took me from Essex all the way
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across the world by the way we were
across the world by the way we were
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laughing at democratic activists we felt
laughing at democratic activists we felt
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they were there from the age of
they were there from the age of
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yesteryear we
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that they were out of date I learned how
that they were out of date I learned how
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to use emails from the extremist
to use emails from the extremist
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organization that I used I learned how
organization that I used I learned how
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to effectively communicate across
to effectively communicate across
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borders without being detected
borders without being detected
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eventually I was detected of course in
eventually I was detected of course in
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Egypt but the way in which I learnt to
Egypt but the way in which I learnt to
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use technology to my advantage was
use technology to my advantage was
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because I was within an extremist
because I was within an extremist
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organization that was forced to think
organization that was forced to think
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beyond the confines of the nation-state
beyond the confines of the nation-state
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the age of behavior where ideas and
the age of behavior where ideas and
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narratives were increasingly defining
narratives were increasingly defining
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behavior and identity and allegiances so
behavior and identity and allegiances so
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as I said we looked to the status quo
as I said we looked to the status quo
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and ridiculed it and it's not just
and ridiculed it and it's not just
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Islamist extremists that did this but
Islamist extremists that did this but
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even if you look across the mood music
even if you look across the mood music
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in Europe of late far-right fascism is
in Europe of late far-right fascism is
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also on the rise a form of anti Islam
also on the rise a form of anti Islam
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rhetoric is also on the rise and it's
rhetoric is also on the rise and it's
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transnational and the consequence is
transnational and the consequence is
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that this is having is that is affecting
that this is having is that is affecting
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the political climate across Europe
the political climate across Europe
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what's actually happening is that what
what's actually happening is that what
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were previously localized parochialism
were previously localized parochialism
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who are isolated from one another have
who are isolated from one another have
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become interconnected in a globalized
become interconnected in a globalized
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way and have thus become or are becoming
way and have thus become or are becoming
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mainstream because the internet and
mainstream because the internet and
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connection technologies are connecting
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them across the world if you look at the
them across the world if you look at the
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rise of far-right fascism across Europe
rise of far-right fascism across Europe
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of late you will see some things that
of late you will see some things that
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are happening that are influencing
are happening that are influencing
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domestic politics yet the phenomenon is
domestic politics yet the phenomenon is
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transnational in certain countries
transnational in certain countries
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mosque minarets are being banned in
mosque minarets are being banned in
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others head scarves are being banned in
others head scarves are being banned in
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others kosher and halal meat are being
others kosher and halal meat are being
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banned as we speak and on the flip side
banned as we speak and on the flip side
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we have transnational Islamist
we have transnational Islamist
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extremists doing the same thing across
extremists doing the same thing across
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their own societies and so they are
their own societies and so they are
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pockets of parochialism that are being
pockets of parochialism that are being
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connected in a way that makes them feel
connected in a way that makes them feel
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like they are mainstream now that never
like they are mainstream now that never
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would have been possible before they
would have been possible before they
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would have felt isolated until these
would have felt isolated until these
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sorts of technologies came around and
sorts of technologies came around and
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connected them in a way that made them
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feel part of a larger phenomenon where
feel part of a larger phenomenon where
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does that leave democracy aspirants well
does that leave democracy aspirants well
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I believe they're getting left far
I believe they're getting left far
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behind and I'll give you an example here
behind and I'll give you an example here
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at this stage if any of you remembers
at this stage if any of you remembers
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the Christmas Day bomber
the Christmas Day bomber
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plot there's a man called Anwar Awlaki
plot there's a man called Anwar Awlaki
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is an American citizen ethnically a
is an American citizen ethnically a
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Yemeni in hiding currently in Yemen who
Yemeni in hiding currently in Yemen who
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inspired a Nigerian son of the head of
inspired a Nigerian son of the head of
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the Nigeria's National Bank this
the Nigeria's National Bank this
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Nigerian students studied in London
Nigerian students studied in London
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trained in Yemen born in a flight in
trained in Yemen born in a flight in
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Amsterdam to attack America in the
Amsterdam to attack America in the
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meanwhile the old mentality with a
meanwhile the old mentality with a
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capital o was represented by his father
capital o was represented by his father
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the head of the Nigerian bank warning
the head of the Nigerian bank warning
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the CIA that his own son was about to
the CIA that his own son was about to
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attack and this warning fell on deaf
attack and this warning fell on deaf
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ears the old mentality with a capital o
ears the old mentality with a capital o
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as represented by the nation-state not
as represented by the nation-state not
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yet fully into the age of behavior not
yet fully into the age of behavior not
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recognizing the power of transnational
recognizing the power of transnational
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social movements got left behind and the
social movements got left behind and the
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kiss Christmas Day bomber almost
kiss Christmas Day bomber almost
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succeeded in attacking the United States
succeeded in attacking the United States
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of America again with the example of the
of America again with the example of the
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far right that we find ironically
far right that we find ironically
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xenophobic xenophobic nationalists are
xenophobic xenophobic nationalists are
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utilizing the benefits of globalization
utilizing the benefits of globalization
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so why are they succeeding and why our
so why are they succeeding and why our
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democracy aspirants falling behind well
democracy aspirants falling behind well
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we need to understand the power of a
we need to understand the power of a
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social movement to understand this and a
social movement to understand this and a
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social movement is comprised in my view
social movement is comprised in my view
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it's comprised of four main
it's comprised of four main
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characteristics it's comprised of ideas
characteristics it's comprised of ideas
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and narratives and symbols and leaders
and narratives and symbols and leaders
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I'll talk you through one example and
I'll talk you through one example and
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that's the example that everyone here
that's the example that everyone here
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will become aware of and that's the
will become aware of and that's the
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example of al-qaeda if I ask you to
example of al-qaeda if I ask you to
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think of the ideas of al-qaeda that's
think of the ideas of al-qaeda that's
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something that comes to your mind
something that comes to your mind
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immediately if I ask you to think of
immediately if I ask you to think of
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their narratives the West being a war
their narratives the West being a war
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with Islam the need to defend Islam
with Islam the need to defend Islam
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against the West these narratives they
against the West these narratives they
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come to your mind immediately
come to your mind immediately
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incidentally the difference between
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ideas and narratives the idea is the
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cause that one believes in and the
cause that one believes in and the
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narrative is the way to sell that course
narrative is the way to sell that course
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the propaganda if you like of the course
the propaganda if you like of the course
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so the ideas and the narratives of
so the ideas and the narratives of
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al-qaeda come to your mind immediately
al-qaeda come to your mind immediately
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if I ask you to think of their symbols
if I ask you to think of their symbols
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and their leaders they come to your mind
and their leaders they come to your mind
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immediately one of the leaders was just
immediately one of the leaders was just
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killed in Pakistan recently so these
killed in Pakistan recently so these
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symbols and these leaders come to your
symbols and these leaders come to your
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mind immediately and that's the power of
mind immediately and that's the power of
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social movements they're transnational
social movements they're transnational
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and they bond around these ideas and
and they bond around these ideas and
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narratives and these symbols and these
narratives and these symbols and these
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leaders however
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if I ask your minds to focus currently
if I ask your minds to focus currently
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on Pakistan and if I ask you to think of
on Pakistan and if I ask you to think of
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the symbols and the leaders for
the symbols and the leaders for
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democracy in Pakistan today you will be
democracy in Pakistan today you will be
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hard-pressed to think beyond perhaps the
hard-pressed to think beyond perhaps the
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assassination of Benazir Bhutto which
assassination of Benazir Bhutto which
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means by definition that particular
means by definition that particular
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leader no longer exists one of the
leader no longer exists one of the
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problems we're facing is in my view that
problems we're facing is in my view that
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there are no globalized youth-led
there are no globalized youth-led
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grassroots social movements advocating
grassroots social movements advocating
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for democratic culture across Muslim
for democratic culture across Muslim
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majority societies there is no
majority societies there is no
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equivalent of the al-qaeda without the
equivalent of the al-qaeda without the
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terrorism for democracy across Muslim
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majority societies there are no ideas
majority societies there are no ideas
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and narratives and leaders and symbols
and narratives and leaders and symbols
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advocating the democratic culture on the
advocating the democratic culture on the
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ground so that begs the next question
ground so that begs the next question
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why is it that extremist organizations
why is it that extremist organizations
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whether of the far-right or of the
whether of the far-right or of the
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Islamist extremism Islamism meaning
Islamist extremism Islamism meaning
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those who wish to impose one version of
those who wish to impose one version of
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Islam over the rest of society why is it
Islam over the rest of society why is it
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that they are succeeding in organizing
that they are succeeding in organizing
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in a globalized way whereas those who
in a globalized way whereas those who
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aspire to democratic culture are falling
aspire to democratic culture are falling
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behind and I believe that's for four
behind and I believe that's for four
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reasons I believe number one its
reasons I believe number one its
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complacency because those who aspire to
complacency because those who aspire to
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democratic culture are in power or have
democratic culture are in power or have
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societies that are leading globalized
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don't feel the need to advocate for that
don't feel the need to advocate for that
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culture the second I believe is
culture the second I believe is
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political correctness that we have a
political correctness that we have a
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hesitation in espousing the universality
hesitation in espousing the universality
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of democratic culture because we
of democratic culture because we
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associate that we associate believing in
associate that we associate believing in
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the universality of our values with
the universality of our values with
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extremists yet actually whenever we talk
extremists yet actually whenever we talk
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about human rights we do say that human
about human rights we do say that human
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rights are reverse Universal but
rights are reverse Universal but
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actually going out to propagate that
actually going out to propagate that
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view is associated with either
view is associated with either
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neoconservative ISM or with Islamist
neoconservative ISM or with Islamist
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extremism to go around saying that I
extremism to go around saying that I
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believe democratic culture is the best
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that we've arrived at as a form of
that we've arrived at as a form of
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political organizing is associated with
political organizing is associated with
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extremism and the third Democratic
extremism and the third Democratic
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choice in muslim-majority societies has
choice in muslim-majority societies has
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been relegated to a political choice
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meaning political parties in many of
meaning political parties in many of
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these societies ask people to vote for
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them as the Democratic Party but then
them as the Democratic Party but then
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the other parties ask them to vote for
the other parties ask them to vote for
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them as the military party wanting to
them as the military party wanting to
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rule by military dictatorship and then
rule by military dictatorship and then
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you have a third party saying vote for
you have a third party saying vote for
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us we will establish a theocracy so
us we will establish a theocracy so
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democracy has become merely one
democracy has become merely one
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political choice among many other forms
political choice among many other forms
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of political choices available in those
of political choices available in those
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societies and what happens as a result
societies and what happens as a result
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of this is when those parties are
of this is when those parties are
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elected and inevitably they fail or
elected and inevitably they fail or
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inevitably they make political mistakes
inevitably they make political mistakes
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democracy takes the blame for their
democracy takes the blame for their
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political mistakes and then people say
political mistakes and then people say
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we've tried democracy doesn't really
we've tried democracy doesn't really
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work let's bring the military back again
work let's bring the military back again
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and the fourth reason I believe is what
and the fourth reason I believe is what
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I've labeled here on the slide is the
I've labeled here on the slide is the
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ideology of resistance what I mean by
ideology of resistance what I mean by
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that is if the world superpower today
that is if the world superpower today
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was a communist it would be much easier
was a communist it would be much easier
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for democracy activists to use democracy
for democracy activists to use democracy
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activism as a form of resistance against
activism as a form of resistance against
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colonialism than it is today with a
colonialism than it is today with a
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world superpower being America occupying
world superpower being America occupying
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certain lands and also espousing
certain lands and also espousing
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democratic ideals
democratic ideals
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so roughly these four reasons make it a
so roughly these four reasons make it a
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lot more difficult for democratic
lot more difficult for democratic
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culture to spread as a civilizational
culture to spread as a civilizational
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choice not merely as a political choice
choice not merely as a political choice
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when talking about those reasons let's
when talking about those reasons let's
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break down certain preconceptions is it
break down certain preconceptions is it
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just about grievances is it just about a
just about grievances is it just about a
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lack of education while statistically
lack of education while statistically
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the majority of those who join extremist
the majority of those who join extremist
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organizations are highly educated
organizations are highly educated
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statistically they are educated on
statistically they are educated on
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average above the education levels of
average above the education levels of
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Western society anecdotally we can
Western society anecdotally we can
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demonstrate that if poverty was the only
demonstrate that if poverty was the only
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factor or bin Laden is from one of the
factor or bin Laden is from one of the
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richest families in Saudi Arabia his
richest families in Saudi Arabia his
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deputy Manas wari was a pediatrician not
deputy Manas wari was a pediatrician not
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an ill educated man international aid
an ill educated man international aid
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and development has been going on for
and development has been going on for
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years but extremism in those societies
years but extremism in those societies
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and many of those societies being on the
and many of those societies being on the
rise
rise
rise
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and what I believe is missing is genuine
and what I believe is missing is genuine
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grassroots activism on the ground in
grassroots activism on the ground in
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addition to international aid in
addition to international aid in
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addition to education in a dish
addition to education in a dish
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to health not exclusive to these things
to health not exclusive to these things
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but in addition to them is propagating a
but in addition to them is propagating a
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genuine demand for democracy on the
genuine demand for democracy on the
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ground and this is where I believe
ground and this is where I believe
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neoconservative ISM had it upside down
neoconservative ISM had it upside down
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near conservativism had the philosophy
near conservativism had the philosophy
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that you go in with a supply led
that you go in with a supply led
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approach to impose democratic values
approach to impose democratic values
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from the top-down
from the top-down
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whereas Islamist and far-right
whereas Islamist and far-right
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organizations for decades have been
organizations for decades have been
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building demand for their ideology on
building demand for their ideology on
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the grassroots they've been building
the grassroots they've been building
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civilizational demand for their values
civilizational demand for their values
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on the grassroots and we've been seeing
on the grassroots and we've been seeing
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those societies slowly transition to
those societies slowly transition to
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societies that are increasingly asking
societies that are increasingly asking
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for a form of Islamism mass movements in
for a form of Islamism mass movements in
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Pakistan have been represented after the
Pakistan have been represented after the
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Arab uprisings mainly by organizations
Arab uprisings mainly by organizations
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claiming for some form of theocracy
claiming for some form of theocracy
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rather than for a democratic uprising
rather than for a democratic uprising
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because since pre partition they've been
because since pre partition they've been
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building demand for their ideology on
building demand for their ideology on
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the ground and what's needed is a
the ground and what's needed is a
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genuine transnational youth-led movement
genuine transnational youth-led movement
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that works to actively advocate for the
that works to actively advocate for the
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democratic culture which is necessarily
democratic culture which is necessarily
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more than just elections but without
more than just elections but without
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freedom of speech you can't have free
freedom of speech you can't have free
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and fair elections without human rights
and fair elections without human rights
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you don't have the protection granted to
you don't have the protection granted to
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you to campaign without freedom of
you to campaign without freedom of
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belief you don't have the right to join
belief you don't have the right to join
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organizations so what's needed is those
organizations so what's needed is those
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organizations on the ground advocating
organizations on the ground advocating
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for the democratic culture itself to
for the democratic culture itself to
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create the demand on the ground for this
create the demand on the ground for this
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culture what that will do is avoid the
culture what that will do is avoid the
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problem I was talking about earlier
problem I was talking about earlier
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where currently we have political
where currently we have political
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parties presenting democracy as a merely
parties presenting democracy as a merely
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a political choice in those societies
a political choice in those societies
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alongside other choices such as military
alongside other choices such as military
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rule and theocracy whereas if we start
rule and theocracy whereas if we start
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building this demand on the ground on a
building this demand on the ground on a
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civilizational level rather than merely
civilizational level rather than merely
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on a political level a level above
on a political level a level above
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politics movements that are not
politics movements that are not
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political parties but are rather
political parties but are rather
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creating this civilizational demand for
creating this civilizational demand for
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this democratic democratic culture what
this democratic democratic culture what
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will have in the end is this ideal that
will have in the end is this ideal that
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you see on the slide here the ideal that
you see on the slide here the ideal that
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people should vote in an existing
people should vote in an existing
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democracy not for a democracy but to get
democracy not for a democracy but to get
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to that stage where democracy builds the
to that stage where democracy builds the
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fabric of society and the political
fabric of society and the political
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choices within that
choices within that
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fabrica left-wing or right-wing but are
fabrica left-wing or right-wing but are
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certainly not theocratic and military
certainly not theocratic and military
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dictatorship are you voting in a
dictatorship are you voting in a
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democracy in an existing democracy and
democracy in an existing democracy and
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that democracy is not nearly one of the
that democracy is not nearly one of the
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choices at the ballot box to get to that
choices at the ballot box to get to that
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stage we genuinely need to start
stage we genuinely need to start
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building demand in those societies on
building demand in those societies on
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the ground now to conclude how does that
the ground now to conclude how does that
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happen well Egypt is a good starting
happen well Egypt is a good starting
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point the outter uprisings have
point the outter uprisings have
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demonstrated that this is already
demonstrated that this is already
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beginning but what happened in the Arab
beginning but what happened in the Arab
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uprisings in what happened in Egypt was
uprisings in what happened in Egypt was
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particularly cathartic for me what
particularly cathartic for me what
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happened there was a political coalition
happened there was a political coalition
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gathered together for a political goal
gathered together for a political goal
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and that was to remove the leader we
and that was to remove the leader we
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need to move one step beyond that now we
need to move one step beyond that now we
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need to see how we can help those
need to see how we can help those
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societies move from political
societies move from political
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coalition's loosely based political
coalition's loosely based political
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coalition's to civilizational
coalition's to civilizational
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coalition's that are working for the
coalition's that are working for the
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ideals and narratives of the democratic
ideals and narratives of the democratic
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culture on the ground because it's not
culture on the ground because it's not
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enough to remove a leader or a ruler or
enough to remove a leader or a ruler or
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a dictator that doesn't guarantee the
a dictator that doesn't guarantee the
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what comes next will be society built on
what comes next will be society built on
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democratic values but generally the
democratic values but generally the
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trends that starts in Egypt have
trends that starts in Egypt have
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historically spread across the meno
historically spread across the meno
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region the Middle East in North Africa
region the Middle East in North Africa
region
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so when Arab socialism starting in Egypt
so when Arab socialism starting in Egypt
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it spread across the region in the 80s
it spread across the region in the 80s
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and 90s when Islamism started in the
and 90s when Islamism started in the
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region it spread across the ameno region
region it spread across the ameno region
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as a whole and the aspiration that we
as a whole and the aspiration that we
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have at the moment as young Arabs are
have at the moment as young Arabs are
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proving today and instantly rebranding
proving today and instantly rebranding
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themselves as being prepared to die for
themselves as being prepared to die for
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more than just terrorism is that there
more than just terrorism is that there
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is a chance the democratic culture can
is a chance the democratic culture can
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start in the region and spread across to
start in the region and spread across to
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the rest of the countries that are
the rest of the countries that are
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surrounding that but that will require
surrounding that but that will require
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helping these societies transition from
helping these societies transition from
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having merely political coalition's to
having merely political coalition's to
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building genuinely grassroots based
building genuinely grassroots based
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social movements that advocate for the
social movements that advocate for the
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democratic culture and we've made a
democratic culture and we've made a
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start for that in Pakistan with a
start for that in Pakistan with a
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movement called hoody where we are
movement called hoody where we are
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working on the ground to to to encourage
working on the ground to to to encourage
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the youth to create genuine Byam for the
the youth to create genuine Byam for the
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democratic culture and it's with that
democratic culture and it's with that
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thought that I'll end and my time is up
thought that I'll end and my time is up
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you
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