Trở thành một người phụ nữ và một nhà ngoại giao-Madeleine Albright

On being a woman and a diplomat - Madeleine Albright
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On being a woman and a diplomat - Madeleine Albright

 


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pins so is is this a a good idea I pins so is is this a a good idea I remember<00:01:45.960> when<00:01:46.119> you<00:01:46.280> were<00:01:47.119> um<00:01:47.560> the<00:01:47.719> first remember when you were um the first remember when you were um the first woman<00:01:48.680> as<00:01:48.920> as<00:01:49.119> Secretary<00:01:49.640> of<00:01:49.799> State<00:01:50.040> and<00:01:50.200> there woman as as Secretary of State and there woman as as Secretary of State and there was<00:01:50.560> a<00:01:50.759> lot<00:01:50.960> of<00:01:51.200> conversation<00:01:51.880> always<00:01:52.320> about was a lot of conversation always about was a lot of conversation always about what<00:01:53.240> you<00:01:53.360> were<00:01:53.560> wearing<00:01:54.320> how<00:01:54.560> you<00:01:54.840> looked<00:01:55.640> uh what you were wearing how you looked uh what you were wearing how you looked uh you<00:01:55.920> know<00:01:56.240> the<00:01:56.360> thing<00:01:56.560> that<00:01:56.719> 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political voices I think we also need to be<00:11:54.519> supportive<00:11:55.160> when<00:11:55.440> businesses<00:11:55.880> are<00:11:56.120> being be supportive when businesses are being be supportive when businesses are being created<00:11:57.440> and<00:11:57.600> just<00:11:57.800> make<00:11:58.079> sure<00:11:58.639> that<00:11:59.079> women created and just make sure that women created and just make sure that women help<00:11:59.959> each<00:12:00.120> other<00:12:00.480> now<00:12:00.760> I<00:12:00.959> have<00:12:01.279> a<00:12:01.639> saying<00:12:02.200> that help each other now I have a saying that help each other now I have a saying that I<00:12:02.480> feel<00:12:02.800> very<00:12:03.200> strongly<00:12:03.519> about<00:12:03.920> because<00:12:04.680> I<00:12:04.800> am I feel very strongly about because I am I feel very strongly about because I am of<00:12:05.279> a<00:12:05.399> certain<00:12:05.800> age<00:12:06.240> where<00:12:06.560> when<00:12:06.760> 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other but secretary Albright I guess other but secretary Albright I guess you'll<00:12:44.680> be<00:12:44.880> going<00:12:45.000> to you'll be going to you'll be going to heaven<00:12:47.720> thank<00:12:47.880> you<00:12:48.000> for<00:12:48.199> joining<00:12:48.639> us<00:12:49.240> today heaven thank you for joining us today heaven thank you for joining us today thanks thanks thanks [Applause]



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